A Podcast to inspire and motivate women in midlife! Let's Calm the Chaos in our lives so we can go after our purpose and passion!

The Calm the Chaos Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring guests who help to inspire and motivate women in midlife towards their goals and dreams! They share their messages and provide the listener with resources and content to take that next step. 

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It was a total pleasure to speak with Deborah. She’s a wonderful and well-informed interviewer who drew out the ideas from my book through her insightful questions that would most help women in mid-life. The resulting interview was informative and fun.

Jennifer Louden


Lisbeth “Lis” McKinley, is a Certified Professional Organizer, move manager, public speaker and owner of LET’S MAKE ROOM, LLC based in Oakland, California, now in its 12th year of operation.

Lis, along with her team at LET’S MAKE ROOM, helps clients achieve their unique vision of organization, before or after moving, remodeling or to refresh and unclutter their living, work and storage areas.

Lis speaks to both professional and community groups about downsizing, organizing, productivity and paper management. Her talks have inspired hundreds of people to enjoy their lives with less and get more done. 

Lis is from New York City, holds a Master’s degree in Clinical Psychology and lives in Oakland with her husband, three cats and a Chihuahua.

What You’ll Learn:

    • What prompted Lis to leave her job and how she felt she was capable of doing more with her life.
    • How did she start Let’s Make Room
    • What are the services she provides
    • What lessons can she share to other women thinking of starting something new 
    • How does Lis connect with clients virtually?
    • What is the “ paper clutter monster”?
    • What are the three questions to ask yourself when holding a piece of paper?

    Act, Is this something you need to act on now or in the future?

    Contain, Is this something that needs to be contained for future reference?

    Toss,  Can you toss this and find a way to access it later?  

    • What’s next on the horizon for Lis and Let’s Make Room
    • How does Lis calm the chaos in her life


Connect with Lis and Let’s Make Room here

Connect with Deborah  here 

Take the midlife Quiz here

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Pattie Hanmer was born in England and lived there until her mid 20’s. Her appetite for adventure, new experiences and hunger for spiritual growth took her to Australia and New Zealand until 2000 when she set sail again and came to the PNW.  Pattie spent many years studying healing practices, personal development, she holds certifications in hypnotherapy, reiki, life coaching, feng shui and has studied with some of the best-known teachers worldwide, such as Dr Jean Houston, Denise Linn, Joe Dispenza, and many others. She has participated in many creative arts, painting, encaustic, mosaic, writing, and interior design. Her world is varied, colorful and her passion includes cooking, creating sacred space and coaching others to find joy in the arts. She is a teacher of the Artist Way and has taught classes for over 5 years. She has created a magical space for participants to be immersed in the studying the artist way, her home, garden and studio is an inspiring, healing, tranquil retreat sanctuary.

Each class follows the Artist Way and Pattie infuses her wealth of creative processes, coaches’ individuals to explore their own hidden muse, and provides a safe fun environment to learn, grow and share so as to deepen each person’s experience. 

Her intention is to be a change agent through inspiration by living in beauty.


What You’ll Learn:

  • Pattie’s journey to the Pacific Northwest and what drew her to Vashon Island
  • What made Pattie choose The Artist’s Way to teach and coach to her students
  • What type of art classes does she incorporate into her teaching
  • Pattie shares stories about some of her past students and how they have grown thru her coaching
  • What are Pattie’s plans for the oasis moving into the new year


Pattie’s website here

Connect with Deborah for coaching here

Take the mid life Quiz here

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Sherry is a nutrition coach and a personal trainer. She helps midlife women lose weight and reduce the symptoms of menopause using simple fitness and nutrition habits. She went back to school to study fitness and nutrition in her 40s and worked at the YMCA instructing fitness classes and doing personal training for 6 years before starting her own business. She now has a number of online programs and one on one coaching for women going through menopause. 

What You’ll Learn:

  • Sherry’s journey from project manager to personal training and nutrition coach
  • Benefits of exercise for women in menopause
  • Success stories of women in Sherry’s program
  • How to get started on your own program or challenge your existing program
  • Sherry’s challenge for the listeners


Sherry’s website here

Connect with Deborah  here 

Take the midlife Quiz here

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Amy is a podcaster, author, public speaker, blogger and CEO of  ARS and Associates and founder of the brand Fearlessly Facing Fifty. Her mission is to empower and encourage women forty plus to go all in and not lose their identity or become invisible.  She want to embolden women to push their fears aside and create the life they envision for themselves going forward into midlife and beyond

What You’ll Learn:

  • Why Amy wrote her book Cannonball, a book for women in midlife
  • How Amy faced her fears before, during and after her TV interview!  
  • Amy’s story about running her 5K .  Her training and event. Stepping into something that was uncomfortable and making it happen.  
  • A health scare on Easter Sunday and how that became an important lesson that she shares with our listeners
  • What is refocusing and recalibrating in midlife?
  • Making yourself a priority!  Have you gotten sidetracked on a goal or thrown off course?  It’s never too late to begin


Connect with Amy here 

Connect with Deborah for Coaching here

The mid life Quiz here


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USA Today best-selling author Marty Wingate writes mysteries set in England. In the First Edition Library series (Berkley), Hayley Burke is the curator of a collection of books from the Golden Age of Mystery. Book two, Murder Is a Must, will be released October 2020. Marty also writes the Potting Shed books (Alibi) featuring Pru Parke, a middle-aged American gardener transplanted from Texas to England, and the Birds of a Feather series (Alibi) follows Julia Lanchester, bird lover, who runs a tourist office in a Suffolk village. 

Marty also writes historical fiction. Glamour Girls (Alcove Press, January 2021) follows the story of a young woman pilot in World War Two Britain.

Marty prefers on-the-ground research whenever possible, and so she and her husband regularly travel to England and Scotland, where she can be found tracing the steps of her characters, stopping for tea and a slice of Victoria sponge in a café, or enjoying a swift half in a pub

What You’ll Learn:

  • How Marty went from Journalist to Mystery Writer
  • Marty’s advice for women in midlife
  • How does she stay focused on her goals
  • Where in Marty’s journey did she struggle with trusting the process
  • Where does Marty find inspiration!
  • Marty’s favorite Gardens in the UK
  • How does Marty Calm the Chaos in her own life


Marty Wingate:  Author of The First Edition Library mysteries (Berkley)

The Bodies in the Library 

Murder Is a Must (October 2020)

WW2 historical women’s fiction Glamour Girls

(Alcove Press, January 2021)


The Potting Shed and Birds of a Feather mysteries 


Connect with Deborah for coaching here

Take the mid life Quiz here

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Leyla Alyanak is a journalist and former foreign correspondent. At 43, she made a major decision to reinvent herself and travel the world solo for six months – she was gone nearly four years, before cell phones, apps and Google. She found time to get lost in a Mozambican minefield, paddle her way out of a flood in the Philippines, and get stampeded by an elephant cow in Nigeria. Always an activist, she has worked for the World Wildlife Fund and for several health-related United Nations agencies. 

Today, at 67, she consults for the UN on human rights, continues to publish widely, and travels the world solo as often as she can, documenting it all on Women on the Road, the website for solo travel over 50. A few weeks ago, taking advantage of the coronavirus lockdown in France, where she lives, Leyla launched a new travel website called Offbeat France!

What You’ll Learn:

      • What are some issues for women that come up in conversations regarding traveling alone
      • The number one question on the site
      • Saying YES when the opportunity arises!
      • Concerns for women while traveling and how to address them


      Feeling Lonely


      • Age is an advantage!
      • Discussion about her new website Offbeat France
      • Leyla’s advice for women over 50


Connect with Leyla Women on the Road here

Leyla’s new website Offbeat France here

Connect with Deborah for Life Coaching here

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