A Podcast to inspire and motivate women in midlife! Let's Calm the Chaos in our lives so we can go after our purpose and passion!

The Calm the Chaos Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring guests who help to inspire and motivate women in midlife towards their goals and dreams! They share their messages and provide the listener with resources and content to take that next step. 

If you have a story you’d like to share with our listeners, please contact me. 

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It was a total pleasure to speak with Deborah. She’s a wonderful and well-informed interviewer who drew out the ideas from my book through her insightful questions that would most help women in mid-life. The resulting interview was informative and fun.

Danielle Collins


Danielle Collins is THE Face Yoga Expert!  With over 17 years of experience teaching to millions worldwide!  Danielle believes in combining traditional techniques that have been used for thousands of years with modern scientifically proven research.  Believe it or not, Face Yoga has been proven to make you look three years younger in 20 weeks as these results were conducted by dermatologists at Northwestern University!  Not only does she provide the tools to her community to do this in their home but she supports her community with a blog, podcast, YouTube channel, shop, and teacher training!  Danielle makes herself accessible and is a wealth of information on how to nurture your mind and body! 

Danielle’s journey started 19 years ago when she had just completed university and was starting her career but began to feel very unwell and went to see a doctor. She was diagnosed with a virus called glandular fever.  At that point, she was housebound and bedridden for a good part of a year.  It was during that time that a doctor told her that there was nothing they could do for her.   Basically, this is how you’ll live for the balance of your life!  It was during this time that someone recommended yoga.  This gentle method of taking care of herself kick-started her journey to a path of healing herself from the inside out. 

During this period of discovering yoga and seeing the results on how she felt within her body, she called on other experts to learn meditation, positive thinking, visualization, massage therapy, and acupuncture.  It was by combining a lot of these techniques together that she was able to feel healthy and strong within 18 months! 

Coming through to the other side of her illness, Danielle knew that she had suffered in this so that she could share her experiences with other people.  She knew that there were other people perhaps going through a similar illness or may just want to learn some simple and effective techniques to help them feel healthier and happier.  

It was then that she took some training in relaxation therapy, yoga teacher training, nutrition, and face massage.  Initially, she started out by teaching a lot of relaxation and yoga classes.  It was then that she wanted to do something that was natural for the face.  Danielle explains that at the time, there wasn’t a lot available and all the focus was strengthening our bodies from the neck down.  There are 57 muscles in our face! With her knowledge about facial massage, she wanted to develop a protocol where people could do these techniques at home.  

Danielle goes on to share how we can strengthen and relax certain muscles.  We do have control over how we can naturally keep our skin vibrant and healthy!  This is when she developed the Danielle Collins Face Yoga Method.  Not only is she teaching these principles to students but she has written two books on her methods which have been translated into 12 different languages.  

Danielle shares some of the feedback she has received from people who have used her face yoga method and some pretty incredible before and after pictures!  But most of all their face looks vibrant and healthy. They also notice a release in the stress and tension in their face as well as a reduction of headaches and sinus issues.

We jump into how to get started and it really depends on how much time you have in your day and the type of results that you want to achieve.  A great starting point is her ten-day course.

On her website, you’ll be able to see the opportunity to connect and subscribe to her podcast and her products.  We do discuss her newest product: The Fusion Mask.  This product is natural, vegan, and organic.  It won’t be harsh or react to the skin.  You can use this product a couple of times per week.  It’s designed to draw out impurities in the skin, hydrate, and encourage cell renewal and natural cell turnover.  It helps to stimulate the natural production of collagen.  

In our conversation, we discuss how face yoga can help to produce more collagen and elastin in our skin.   We naturally tend to lose about 1% of collagen each year from around the age of 18. Massage is very helpful with cell turnover and renewal as it gets into the middle layer of the skin. Boosting circulation and help get fresh blood and nutrients into the areas where collagen and elastin lie.  By strengthening and toning those muscles under the skin you will be providing that structure and everything will look more lifted!

Maybe today is the day for you to get curious and connect with Danielle!  Perhaps give Face Yoga a try? 



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Fusion Mask and Serum  

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Passion and Purpose Digital Workbook

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Clarity Parenting


This podcast episode is the journey of my client Sky who recently completed her 8-week coaching program with me to gain the clarity and confidence she needed regarding her next career move!

Sky came to me recently unemployed and feeling confused about what to do next.  She wasn’t sure if staying in her early childhood education was the best move for her and she was needing some guidance to help make that decision and gain the skills she needed to show up with confidence to be able to discuss her experience and skills during the interview process

Sky wrestled with the how-to effectively seek employment and those beliefs that “nobody was going to want me as a woman in midlife”. She also felt that she was “too old to change what she was doing”.  She had a lot of negative mindset going on at the time of our first meeting!

Sometimes making that initial call to a coach can feel scary and be vulnerable with someone you don’t know very well.  Sky shares how she felt after that first free sixty-minute introductory call with me.  “It felt good like I was connecting with somebody who understood my situation and help tease out what I wanted and what would make me happy and fulfilled”.  

It was clear after our initial conversation that Sky didn’t feel that great about herself or her situation.  For her, it was like a lifeboat came along and she was going to jump on!  

Sky shares what it was like to show up for the coaching each week and do the homework which combined self-exploration and career coaching.  Sky loved the exercises because they showed her that what she was looking for in the future and it whatever she chose would need to be meaningful and purposeful.  She also learned that she had a lot of knowledge about families and wanted to a be service to her community!

During this process, Sky created some big dreams and big goals for herself, and for her, it was helpful to have someone help break those down into small steps that she could follow so that each week she accomplished those goals! 

Sky shares how she enjoyed working through the worksheets in the Passion and Purpose Workbook.   She shares her favorite worksheet during the eight weeks and that the exercise made her feel like she was an investment and does have a value to provide and there are things that she wants for herself and her future!  She loves going back and reading what she wrote on the exercises during the coaching process as it helps her to see how far she has come during this period!

We discuss that time in the coaching process where Sky felt that turn in her mindset and how she saw herself. That process evolved from the very first session where we tackled some of her ongoing nightmares and how to work through that process. Then she had her mirror work assignments which in the beginning she was whispering her mantra and now she is comfortable looking at herself in the mirror and believing what she is saying to herself!  Even now she is continuing to remind herself in the mirror that she deserves her ideal life!  This helped her keep her goals and focus while making ongoing progress. 

There are many coaches out there on the internet and Sky shares why she decided to work with me through the eight-week coaching process and how she felt about our initial introduction.  ( I’ll let you listen to her own words! )  So important to hear if you are looking to reach out to a coach!  

It became apparent through the coaching that Sky was someone who values creativity, autonomy, and independence.  She also wants to give back to her community!  She wants to be someone who helps people! Sky decided to take her certification to become a life coach and will be opening her coaching business which focuses on helping families. Her business… is Clarity Parenting and her focus will be helping families with young children. A lot of what she will be offering is providing behavior guidance to families! She will also help families find the right type of childcare for their children and offer a unique perspective coming from her professional background. 

Sky is confident now that she can do this and she can create her ideal lifestyle and dream career!  She shares that having someone to help guide you to overcome the mindset that is holding you back is very helpful in the process. Also having a coach that can help you take a look at yourself and help you see the value in who you are for yourself and the world is helpful. 

What are you waiting for? If you are feeling confused, overwhelmed or stuck in what to do next for your career journey let’s connect for your free sixty-minute session so we can get to know each other!  Go grab your favorite beverage and fill out your application!  


Cindy Burnett


Cindy Burnett is the host of the Thoughts from a Page Podcast where she interviews authors about their latest works. An avid reader and book reviewer, Cindy loves to talk about books everywhere she can. In addition to hosting her podcast, she actively promotes books she loves on social media including Instagram, Facebook, Pinterest, Twitter, and LinkedIn. Cindy writes two book columns for The Buzz Magazines, Buzz Reads, and Page Turners, and reviews books monthly for Bookreporter.com. She is also a co-creator of Conversations from a Page, a Houston author event series that brings authors and readers together in a relaxed and welcoming setting; the group recently added an online book club as well. As a SheReads.com contributor, she writes “best of” book articles in the genres of historical fiction, non-fiction, and mysteries. In addition to reading, Cindy loves theatre, art, movies, National parks, travel, and hiking in Colorado during the summer.

Cindy shares her journey on going from lawyer to retirement to take care of children and then ultimately finding her passion and purpose!  She shares how it was seven years ago while working on a volunteer project for her kid’s school that someone recognized her love for reading and invited her to be a part of their Facebook book group!  It was by being in the group, meeting, and interviewing authors that it snowballed to where she is today!  (  You just never know when saying yes to something will turn into something more! ) 

She shares that going through this process was exciting because she always loved reading books and loves to talk so it was fun to see that it could turn into a career! The path wasn’t easy nor a straight line! It took a lot of exploring and correcting to form the circle she feels that she has created today!

Cindy’s journey continued by hosting a book event in the home for her friend’s book that was published.  The response was fantastic and many people showed up and loved the event.  Soon everyone was asking about the next event!  From there Cindy continued to invite authors to the home for these in-person events.  It’s during these events that Cindy and her co-host would interview the authors in a very intimate atmosphere!  Sounds like a lot of fun!  

Then in 2021 the pandemic hit and in-home author hosting events were not realistic and people suggested that she host a podcast and take her interviews to the airwaves!  So began the journey of researching what it would take to produce a podcast and before she knew it she was recording up to three podcasts a week!  

Cindy shares about her journey in learning the art of podcasting and all that goes into producing a show and how she conquered the learning curve!   For Cindy, Google became her friend!  

We talk about how to overcome the self-doubt in taking on a new project and overcoming that learning curve!  There are so many resources out there to lend a hand: 

A Coach who’s walked in your shoes, Google, and YouTube! I’ve watched a lot of YouTube videos myself when I started my podcast!  Such a great resource for learning how to do something new! Also, ask for feedback! People are willing to share and provide help if you reach out and ask.  

Cindy shares that with her podcast business, she picks something new to focus on each month which is great advice when starting out. Don’t try to do everything all at once. Take it slowly, learn and get a good grasp of one aspect of the business or customer before moving on to something new! 

We talk a bit about the book industry through the pandemic how right now they are seeing supply chain issues and what are the consequences of those shortages.  If you have a specific book that you would like to give for the holiday season then now would be the time to make that purchase!  

Cindy shares a book that she is reading right now and one that she is listening to as well!  

The print book she is reading now is called: Woodrow on the Bench, Life Lessons from a Wise Old Dog  

The book she is listening to is called: Taste, My Life Through Food  

Our conversation turns to Cindy giving some advice to women over forty who are on the fence about going after their dream. She encourages you to find that something that you love to do!  When she was an attorney, she like being a lawyer just fine but she loves what she does now!  Can you turn that something that you love to do into something that can move forward into a career?


Terry Tucker


Terry Tucker has been an NCAA Division I college basketball player, a Citadel cadet, a marketing executive, a hospital administrator, an undercover narcotics investigator, a SWAT Team Hostage Negotiator, a high school basketball coach, a business owner, a motivational speaker, an author, and most recently, a cancer warrior. He is the author of, Sustainable Excellence, Ten Principles To Living Your Uncommon and Extraordinary Life. Terry and his wife have lived all over the United States and currently reside in Colorado with their daughter and Wheaten Terrier, Maggie. In 2019, Terry started the website, Motivational Check to help others find and lead their uncommon and extraordinary lives

Terry shares that your life should be about your purpose and finding the reason why you were put on this earth, and then living for that reason! Terry had the opportunity to mentor a young man who asked him how to be successful.  Not just in his job but in life! He didn’t want to give him a general answer but provide him with something deeper so he created ten principles and then sent them to him. From there, Terry thought that he had a life story to contribute under each principle and that’s how his book Sustainable Excellence was born. 

During Terry’s cancer treatment which began in April of 2020, he sat down during that period when he was healing to build the stories underneath each of the principles.  

We start by discussing the four truths which are a part of Terry now which he  learned during his nine-year cancer journey 

Terry’s Four Truth’s 

  1.  Control your mind or it will control you
  2. Embrace the pain and suffering we all experience in life and use it to make you stronger and a more determined individual
  3. What you leave behind is what you weave in the hearts of other people
  4. As long as you don’t quit – you can never be defeated. 

Terry’s Three F’s

  1. Faith 
  2. Family 
  3. Friends 

This is what’s helped Terry through his cancer journey and we spend a good deal of time talking about the four truths and how to make those a part of your life.  

Terry shares that the only way you’re going to live is if you are growing and if you are not growing, then you are dying.  He encourages us to take the pain we are feeling and flip it inside so that it’s burned as fuel and use it as energy to make us stronger people.  Instead of running from pain, Terry has learned how to use it to make him stronger.   I love this portion of the interview!  

We are reminded to surround ourselves with people who are going to be positive and uplift us to be successful.  Get the negative people out of your life!  You don’t have to reach your goal alone. There are people out there who want to be available to help you be successful!  

Something to think about is, what are people going to say about you at your funeral? 

 ( don’t get that confused with living your life based on what people think ).  If you don’t like what people are saying about you then you have time to change it now!  We get so focused on today that we lose sight of the big picture. Take a look at the end of your life!  Be happy that you found your purpose in life and that you lived it!  

Terry shares a Native American Black Foot Proverb: 

When you were born, You Cried and the world Rejoiced.  Live your life in such a way so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice!  

Terry reminds us that you can never be defeated!  All of us have goals and they often take longer than we anticipate but if you get discouraged don’t give up!  As long as you don’t give up, then you can not be defeated!  

We discuss that your purpose doesn’t need to be your job! Your job can be that “something” that is there to pay the bills.  Your purpose is whatever you feel in your heart.  Terry shares that if there is something you think you should do but scares you then go ahead and do it!  At the end of your life, the things you are going to regret are not the things that you did, but the things that you didn’t do and by then it will be too late. 

Our discussion moves into Terry sharing his process for writing his book and how he disciplined himself to write every day ( except Sunday). Even if the content was not good, he sat down to put something on paper.  We even chat about the editing process and what’s that like for an author and how he would listen to their advice, sleep on it and then realize that they were the experts and end up making the changes!  Terry also learned that his job was not to sell books but his job was to help people. If you help people, then the book will take care of itself.  Terry wrote his book to make a difference and he is impacting so many lives.  

We also talk about how to show up for a friend and family member with cancer. Terry’s words of wisdom are so helpful.  Hearing firsthand what Terry has experienced going through his treatment was very helpful and he shares those moments and opportunities.  Don’t be a friend who sits on the sidelines!  If you want to get involved in someone’s life then get involved!  Make a meal, walk the dog, cut the grass!

Terry shares his advice for a woman over forty who is at a crossroads in life and is wanting to find her passion and purpose! You have things to give!  Just keep going and move forward one day at a time.  Keep looking for it and look for it with an open heart.  Your purpose will energize you!  


Jean Atman


Jean Atman is a Consciousness Coach and Quantum Healer. Her greatest joy is to spark awakening and facilitate deep level healing in the collective. She has been called to reach beyond her beloved practice and is on a mission to assist in the ascension process at a grander scale. 

Jean is passionate about sharing her wisdom, tips, and tools that have proven to be the most effective in influencing her journey as well as for her clients! 

We begin by discussing Jean’s journey towards her practice and how she was born into a tumultuous life with a lot of toxicity.  When you are dealing with that and a lot of this type of energy you develop a particular belief system about how the world works and how you are loved.  As she was growing up, she realized that life didn’t feel good and found herself having a lot of struggles.

At this point, she felt that there should be more to life and it didn’t need to contain so much darkness! Jean feels that she was meant to walk through the darkness and find the light! She then took a deep dive into herself and what she was creating and how she was taking responsibility for the creation of her life around her. 

Jean has spent decades unearthing and unpacking all the old belief systems that she grew up around and began shifting them into something she preferred instead.  Her process was working with the mental and emotional aspects of these beliefs and their triggers.  

In the old paradigm, we often believe that our shadow parts are scary and that we should be afraid of going into that place.  Jean says that once we recognize that the fear inside of ourselves are pieces that need nurturing, love and compassion then it’s easier to make that transition and go inside. Jean shares that she began to go on retreats and take time to be with herself and create a sacred space to rest and listen. 

For Jean, her meditation practice was what helped her to learn about herself. She shares that when you can be present within yourself that you can gain access to all sorts of places that are typically hidden or ignored because of the busyness of life.  We talk more about Jean’s meditation practice and how that’s such an important part of her life and through the years she has learned that she’s not alone when mediating. 

We discuss her practice of energy healing and how when you start to clear your field and decongest, you allow something else to come in which can be transformational. At this point, we can choose something better in a higher vibrational aspect for ourselves.  

Jean shares with us how she helps her community to be a consciousness creator!  She shares how she dives into limiting beliefs and triggers as information.  It’s important that as this information comes in and creates a discomfort that we do not stuff it down or deflect it but learn to be comfortable with the discomfort and ask ”what is that within you” and what’s being triggered right now.  All those uncomfortable feelings are a wound that’s being poked and prodded to say “I’m here and I am needing something from you” When we take that deep dive to see what that is we can unearth it, nurture, and start to clear those feelings. Once you no longer carry that around within you then it’s a healed space.  

Jean believes that we can become conscious of how we are creating our worlds and once you start to heal those things and start choosing something different for yourself you are in a healed place.  

We discuss what it really means to rest and restore the body which is so important to have this transformation.  Jean shares that it’s not just the typical “go to bed” rest. That’s just the basics!  We get so busy with all the external moving parts of the world that we need to give ourselves permission to “pause”.  Be in the stillness.  We need to stop the momentum and check-in with ourselves.  At that point, we can ask ourselves how we are feeling about ourselves or a situation and feel the discomfort. Then perhaps if we need to shift our path we, can feel that and make those slight changes. 

Jean shares her insight on how to begin and nurture a mediation practice which is very helpful for those beginning or needing to understand how to acknowledge those thoughts that may creep in while taking that pause. She shares that there is no failing or succeeding in meditation that it’s just practice!  Be kind to yourself! 

Jean offers a course to her community: Limitless which is a foundational shift for people!  The first portion of the course work is to challenge the foundation of what’s not working in your world. You talk about limiting beliefs, triggers, the inner critic, and all those pieces that are working against you. Once you recognize what is not working then you can begin to make the shift.  Jean also includes mindfulness practices, journaling exercises, and prompts so you can get into your inner world. She also offers community-guided healings. By moving that energy out then you can feel lighter and choose something different and better for yourself. The second part of the course is focusing on the aspects of money, relationships, health, vitality, and the gift of receiving.  After you’ve had the opportunity to build a new foundation then you can align the other aspects of your life! 


Dina Vink


Dyna Vink is a certified health and nutrition coach who refused to give in after her doctor, dietician, and trainer gave ineffective advice on how to navigate perimenopause.  She now coaches women through her site Holistic Nutrition Lifestyle  

Dyna started her journey as a director of marketing with several high-tech companies over the years.  She had what some may consider a dream job.  But in her thirties started to stumble which affected her confidence and belief in herself.   Different symptoms started coming up and she didn’t know what to make of them and hadn’t connected the dots to the “change in life”.  Dyna shares with us those symptoms that she was experiencing and how she was working on her own towards trying to find a “magic pill”.   Even at her annual check-up, the doctor proceeded to fat-shame her and prescribed a crazy diet of processed foods.  She knew that this was not the path to gaining back her overall health.  

It was after consulting her doctor, trainer, and dietician that she started to dive into reading women’s aging literature so that she could understand what was going on with her mind and body.  She started to make some small changes and focused on a lifestyle approach after all the other exhaustive options.  

It was after her journey, research, and education that Dyna felt that she would like to become a health and nutrition coach so that she could help other women through this challenge.  Dyna feels that we should be talking more about perimenopause and menopause in our daily lives.  It’s nothing to be shameful about.  She makes herself available through coaching and education.  

We discuss how Dyna intakes a new client and how every client’s situation is handled uniquely and there is no “cookie-cutter”  approach.  Dyan’s focus is a lifestyle approach and to think of food as medicine.

  Food is one of Dyna’s first pillars that she focuses on because it’s so important to our overall well-being and the good news is that this is something that we can control.   If we can control the way we eat and resolve some symptoms and problems like inflammation, bloating, joint pain, brain fog, and sleep then it’s a big win for our overall health and well-being.  

Another pillar that Dyna focuses on with her clients is quality sleep.  Many women come to her stating that they are having issues with weight gain and one of the first questions is, are you getting enough sleep?  Sleep is not only vital to your physical health but to your overall weight loss.  If you don’t get enough sleep then your cortisol levels go up and that’s a stress hormone that over time can be very toxic to the body.  If you can’t get proper sleep then your body can’t perform the general maintenance of removing dead cells and rebuilding tissues.  

Dyna makes available on her website an article:  Eleven Foods  Ladies in Peri-menopause should never eat.  I will go ahead and put a link to this article in the show notes! 

We discuss exercising for health and exercising for weight loss and how that affects women in perimenopause and menopause.  Dyna also shares a client success story which is a great reminder of how we treat our overall health and wellbeing.  

So what about the women who are listening that have already gone through the menopause journey and are on the other side?  What should we be concerned about moving forward?  Dyna shares that a focus on bone and muscle strengthening is very important as we get older and we should not let this area of our practice slide.  And please don’t forget to work on your balance!  There are many practices and exercises she shares that can help us to stay focused on keeping this an area for commitment.  

Dyna closes by leaving the listeners with a challenge and tips on being successful. Are you ready to take her up on this for a short period of time? I know that I have been focusing on her challenge and already seeing some changes in my overall health and well-being.